Dachelle McVey Homeschool Conversations podcast interview fun and freedom homeschooling

Finding Freedom and Fun in Homeschooling (with Dachelle McVey)

One of the best parts of homeschooling is the freedom and fun it brings! We don’t have to do things just because somebody tells us to or just because everybody else is doing it. Dachelle McVey reminds us that we have the privilege to choose what is best for our own unique families, encourage our children to take ownership of their education, and add a bit of enchantment and pixie dust along the way.

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Who is Dachelle McVey?

Dachelle is a homeschooling mom of 3 and a self-proclaimed book addict. She loves chocolate and has been known to hide it from her children. She can often be found hiding in the closet reading a good book (or even sometimes just an okay book) and enjoying a jar of Nutella — don’t judge. She shares about her homeschool adventures at HideTheChocolate.com when she’s not creating book clubs at LiteraryAdventuresForKids.com.

Dachelle McVey Homeschool Conversations podcast interview fun and freedom homeschooling

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Amy Sloan: Hello everyone. Today, I am joined by Dachelle McVey, who is a homeschooling mom of three and a self-proclaimed book addict. (That would be me, too.) She loves chocolate and has been known to hide it from her children. She can often be found hiding in the closet, reading a good book, or even sometimes just an okay book, and enjoying a jar of Nutella. She shares about her homeschool adventures at HideTheChocolate.com when she’s not creating book clubs at LiteraryAdventuresForKids.com.

I love that just reality of sometimes it’s a great book and sometimes it’s just an okay book because sometimes you just need some ice cream in your reading life, just like you do in your food diet.

Dachelle McVey: That’s very true. Sometimes you want a book that you just know how it’s going to end.

Amy: Exactly. Dachelle, would you please start by telling us a little bit about your family and how you came to start homeschooling?

Dachelle: Sure. Like you said, my name is Dachelle McVey. As you can tell by my accent, I am from the Southern part of the United States and we have really bad allergies here because of all the pollen. You’ll have to excuse my occasional cough. I have three children, one has already graduated, he’s in college and actually about to graduate from college. Then I have one in high school and one in middle school. We’ve been homeschooling for quite some time. I honestly don’t remember how many years. People ask me that, I’m like, “I don’t know, somewhere around 10.” [laughs]

Amy: Long time.

Dachelle McVey Homeschool Conversations podcast interview fun and freedom homeschooling

Why did you start homeschooling?

Dachelle: The biggest question I get asked is why did you start to homeschool? We did not fit into any of the normal criteria. There were no problems with our school. We have actually a really good private school that is five minutes away from my house. That has never been an issue for us. My kids were not having problems in school. I literally just thought it’d be more fun to homeschool. [laughs]

Amy: I love that.

Dachelle: We’ve had a lot of fun and we get to do what we want to when we want to and how we want to. It’s very interesting and it’s somewhat prophetic. My daughter, I was in the car with her just a few moments ago. NSU is– She was talking about the private school. She goes over there for one class a day because I do not teach science so she goes over there for biology.

She was coming home and she was talking about the kids, the school, and how they had to take this course, or that class, and she said that the board was telling them what classes they had to take. She said, “I don’t understand. Why would you want to do that where somebody else makes your decisions about what classes you can take?”

I just started laughing because we’ve made such a point about her especially because she’s in high school now so she trying to go out in the world in a few years that she has to take control of her education. She decides what she wants learn and how she wants to learn it. With her, she wants to go into the medical field so it’s very important to her to take the classes she wants to, that she thinks is going to get into there. I just thought that was so perfect. I was like, “Hmm, interesting.” [laughs]

Amy: I love that. I can still relate to that as a second-generation homeschooler. I have never had to follow somebody else’s schedule or fit inside a box. I would really have a hard time giving up that freedom now with my own children. Sometimes I see even in the homeschool world, there’s these new set of boxes that we’re trying to fit inside and I’m like, “No, I don’t want anyone telling me what I have to do on a certain day with my kids. I want to decide that for myself.” That’s part of the fun, that’s part of the adventure for me.

Dachelle: Exactly. That’s one of the things that a lot of people in my local community have asked because so many of them had to start doing school at home or– I hesitate to call it homeschooling. Very few of them have turned to homeschooling, but a lot of them have said they’re homeschooling. We talked a lot about that. It’s not the same thing but they want to be able to get back into the system when it opens back up next year after COVID and things.

I understand that, but I keep saying it’s not the same thing. It’s just so very different because you’re not making the decisions. Somebody else has been making all the decisions for you. You’re just there with your kid all day. That’s literally the only thing that’s like homeschool.

Amy: That might be sometimes the harder part of it.

Dachelle: That is the hard part of homeschooling, absolutely.

Dachelle McVey Homeschool Conversations podcast interview fun and freedom homeschooling

How Dachelle’s approach to homeschooling has changed over the years

Amy: Okay, so you came in, you were like, “This will be fun,” and you came into homeschooling, I’m sure it’s just been all fun and games the whole way through. Tell me how your experience, maybe the good and the maybe more challenging and then how your approach to homeschooling has grown or changed over the years.

Dachelle: I’m not kidding about the hard part of homeschooling is being home with your kids. I don’t mean that in a negative way. I love my kids and I obviously chose to homeschool them because I wanted to spend time with them. But when you’re with somebody 24 hours a day, every single day, you start to get on each other’s nerves. Sometimes that is the hardest part.

Sometimes it’s good for, especially those of us who are homeschool moms whose husbands may be away at work, that when they come home, you have your little family dinner and then say, “Okay, I’m off now. I’m going to go take a bath or sit in the hot tub,” or whatever I’m going to do. Or, “Maybe I’m just going to head out to the porch and do some work without anybody else asking me questions so you get to field all those questions.” I think that really is the hardest part of homeschooling.

Then that pulls me into the second question you asked, was that a philosophy and how I got started. We got started as Charlotte Mason homeschoolers. The reason why I was doing this, I’m obviously a huge literature fan, so anything that was based solely on literature was going to be yes, in my wheelhouse there.

My husband is in the medical field and so he is very traditional school. You learn the stuff, you take the tests, you learn the stuff, you take the test, and he’s always being tested. He’s being tested in his career. He has to every so often go take boards and things like that.

He’s a very traditional set and I am probably a little more free willing. Our first thing when we started was we really tried to do school at home. I was trying to do that with Charlotte Mason. I was trying to follow all the rules because we want to do one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten to we wanted to do this order. I promise you within about the first nine weeks of that year I was so upset, the kids were so upset, we were all in tears, it was just crazy.

I said, “Oh, something’s got to give here because I can’t follow all the rules and be the perfect little school.” Everybody was sitting in the little desk, it was so cute. They had their little workbooks, and everybody had their little special things, they were labeled with their names. My oldest who had been in school for quite a while when started it, he was having none of it. He, “This is awful. I can’t believe you’re forcing me to stay with mom all day. I want to go visit my friends,” it was a nightmare.

I literally just had to say to myself, “This is it, I’m done, I’m throwing it away.” I literally threw it away. I just picked up stuff and I shoved them in the trash. Then that’s when I discovered we’re not Charlotte Mason Homeschoolers. We are relaxed Charlotte Mason scholars. I realized that I didn’t have to follow all the rules. There’s a lot of rules out there for a lot of philosophies; I didn’t want to do them. I wanted to do some of the things, but I didn’t want all the things. I wanted to be able to say, “I don’t like this. I’m not going to do it.

Julie Bogart is one of my mentors, and I love her dearly, and have been friends with her for several years. She said one day, “I give you permission to just not do anything today, or just change the schedule or throw it away.” I thought, “Wow, I never felt like I had that ability, that I had to follow all these rules,” and then I had explained to my husband why we’re doing all this. Obviously, he gets on board with me because he likes living with me, but it was hard.

The biggest lesson that I learned was it’s okay to not follow all the rules and do everything everybody’s saying. It’s especially okay if you buy a curriculum, not to do everything in that curriculum. That’s the hard part to, especially if you’re a rule follower, to give that up.

Amy: Yes, indeed. Let’s see. I can’t remember which season or which episode it was now, but I talked to Pam Barnhill and the way she describes their homeschool is she calls it “us-schooling,” which I just loved. Because it just shows that you learn from all these different philosophies, you gain principles, you find good ideas. Sometimes you even learn from the parts of it that you’re like, “Well, I don’t really want to include that in my homeschool,” but you’re still learning, you’re thinking about things in a new way. At the end of the day, you have to figure out what’s going to be best for your own family. I like her little, “It’s us-schooling. It’s our own little family.”

Dachelle: I liked Pam’s philosophy too.

How to add enchantment to the homeschool day

Amy: We take our job very seriously as homeschool moms. As you were expressing at the beginning, you have the list and the rules and all these things. Then over time you started realizing, “No, I’m going to figure out how I want to use this with the freedom and flexibility that homeschooling is giving you.” I want to pick your brain a little bit here about how do we stay focused and do the things that we’ve decided we want to do, but still include some joy and flare in our homeschool day. How do we have both of those things?

Dachelle: That’s what I do. That’s what Hide the Chocolate is all about and really and Literary Adventures for Kids, is that we spend a lot of time talking about how to add enchantment- -to our day. You can phrase that any way you want to. We use the word enchantment, but you could use the word joy, or that little spice, or that little extra bit that makes the day worthwhile.

I think a lot of times, let me just say, it’s not wrong to teach your kids that there are things we have to do. They’re just things you have to do and you don’t like it and you just do it because that’s life. [laughs] Suck it up. You’re going to have to eventually do the laundry or you’re going to run out of clothes. There’s just things like that. You’re going to have to put the dishes in the dishwasher and then take them out.

There are things in life that you just have to do. Sometimes that means that you have to do math even if you absolutely despise math. Or you have to teach your kid biology or find some other way to do it. [laughs] I really don’t like sciencey things. I actually do like science. I don’t like the dissecting things. That’s why I don’t do biology.

Amy: I am with you. Yes, I tried to outsource dissections last year and then everything shut down so they never really got through dissections. [laughs]

Dachelle: I’m so sorry. [laughs] I’m so sorry for hearing that. I didn’t even do that in college. I waited until senior year for the biology thing and the teacher say, “Dissect the mouse,” I couldn’t do it. I was like, “Do not do it.” Anyway, I digress.

Amy: You digress.

[laughter]

Dachelle: What was I talking about? There are things that you have to do and that’s okay, but we need to mix it up some and have some little bits a flair, some little bits of enchantment. What we do around here is we do things like poetry tea times or book clubs enrichment group where we have more of hands-on fun things that we do. We go out, we field school, they’re just little things. It doesn’t matter what it is, as long as it’s something that’s out of the ordinary because obviously, you can’t have enchantment if it’s ordinary. It has to be extraordinary. You have to have something that is a special treat for the kids.

If you can take them out one day and say, “Okay, we’re studying about history and we’re starting at this period. You know what, about an hour away, there’s a historical site that was this period. Let’s go out there and let’s take an adventure and let’s just spend the day out there doing that.” We don’t do any math that day, we don’t do any grammar that day, we’re just having fun.

Or it’s we’ve read this book, we’ve just finished this awesome book, for example, yesterday, Birchbark House, we just finished that so we’re talking about Native Americans and we got out the deep fryer and we made fried bread and some honey on that. That was so yummy. I love fried bread, totally not on my diet, but still. We drank some sarsaparilla tea and then we planted some pumpkins. Granted we’ll have pumpkins in July instead of when we’re supposed to, but that’s okay. [chuckles] We even made just some basket weaving all because that was our enchantment and that joy and that fun of bringing what we study together.

I’m not saying do that every day because obviously that’s going to be exhausting for mom, but if you can do that once a month or twice a month or something like that, throw in some little bit of things that make it fun. Even it’s as simple as saying, “It’s been a rough week. Math has been hard. We’ve learned about conic sections and it’s difficult. Let’s have math and milkshakes.” We’re going to head out to our favorite little Trolley Stop that sells these awesome milkshakes and we’re going take our math book and we’re going to sit there and we’re going to do our math while we’re sipping on milkshakes.

It is as simple as that. Just some way to add some little enchantment into your day that gives the kids a break, but also, gives you a little break and change. Because if going out to the little Trolley Stop and doing math is going to be stressful on you, don’t do it because the kids will know and it won’t be fun for them either.

Dachelle McVey Homeschool Conversations podcast interview fun and freedom homeschooling

Amy: That is such a good encouragement too, all those ideas you are giving. Some are like, “Okay, we’re going to weave a basket,” and that’s maybe a little more complicated. Other things are, “We’re just going to go get a milkshake.” I think sometimes when I think about adding the enchantment or the flair or the pizzazz to the day, we can set ourselves up for failure because it seems like it has to be so complicated in our minds.

We come up with this really complex thing and by the time we actually try to implement it, it’s not fun, we’re not having fun and the kids aren’t having fun. We’re like, “You’re supposed to be having fun here.” Sometimes it just needs to be simple. It doesn’t have to be glitter, it can just be milkshake or painting pumpkin seeds. Just finding those small little ways to add a little spark to the day, I think that’s really good.

Dachelle: Exactly. I think that’s really important. The biggest thing I can say about that is as moms, we have a tendency to look on the Instagram post or Pinterest or whatever, and we see these fabulous book clubs because hey, I read about books all the time. I’m not going to put the boring, “we’re sitting there drinking our milkshake.” Why would I write a post about that? I am going to give you your article about how we did all these amazing things because that gives you ideas. I’m not saying you need to do all of those ideas at one time. Sure, if you want to, have fun with it, but take one of those ideas and do something with it or find your own ideas and that fits you.

You know what I say, I don’t like to cook or things. When I take the kids in the kitchen, I used to do those Raddish Boxes where you’d get them and they’d tell you to get all the recipes and you can make things. When we would do that, I literally had to change it to that’s all we did that day because it was like three hours of us in there making one stinking dinner. We did it on Wednesdays for some reason, and by the end of that, we’d have our church set and I’d be like, “I can’t even go to church. I can’t function. I can’t do this.” [laughs] I’m like, “Why am I doing this?” If I know that cooking with kids is stressful, that is totally off my plate. I’m going to run to the bakery and buy something. Just pick what’s best for you to do.

Amy: Yes. I think about that too when I encourage people to choose what poems they’re going to include in their memory work. I say, “Don’t worry so much about the list of poems you think you’re supposed to memorize. What is interesting to you as the mom?” Sometimes if we start with that what we’re excited to do with our kids and don’t try to fight against the way God made us there, it ends up working out more smoothly for everyone.

Dachelle: Exactly.

Creative ideas for enjoying literature with multiple ages

Amy: Well, you’ve mentioned your book clubs and I know we share a love of books and poetry. I was wondering if you could share some of your creative suggestions for enjoying literature of a variety with maybe some different ages, what that might look like at different times of our homeschool career, or then if you have multiple ages because I know, like my family, we have a wide age range.

Dachelle: That’s a great question. How we do all our book clubs is every single one of them, no matter what age group it is, we have rabbit trails. What a rabbit trail is just simply where we’re digging into something in the book that takes a little bit of a different slant. Maybe it’s a historical reference, maybe it’s a science thing that we could go do an experiment. Something like that, that’s just a rabbit trail.

There’s things like when you’re sitting doing read aloud with your kids, you might be talking about some things like say Mr. Popper’s Penguins, you’re reading that one. You start thinking about, “Well, penguins, could they live in a refrigerator? I don’t know.” Then you start talking about and learning about penguins. You might go start digging around on Google, or you run to the library and you get some more books about penguins, or maybe you find this experiment about how do penguins stay warm in the Arctic and so you do an experiment on that.

You could just take it to all these different levels and that’s what we do, is we teach parents, we try to help them to learn how to do that. We know that it’s hard for a parent to just go, “Okay, well we’re studying Mr. Popper’s Penguins so let me go read the book before and now let me pull out all these ideas.” We do that for you. We give you other ideas so you can do that kind of thing.

Honestly, it’s hard sometimes to bring the older kids and the younger kids together, but you can do it in ways like if you’re reading a book that maybe appeals to a large age group like The Birchbark House like we’re just talking that we just did. That’s a really great book and that it’s elementary but you can really see some depth in it. It can go into middle school and even high schoolers if they don’t know anything about Native Americans. It’s a simple read so that makes it easier to read in elementary, but it has some aspects of it that maybe they don’t know. I actually learned stuff while researching that about Native Americans.

You could take that and take different areas of it. Like the little kids, you could go out into the nature and you could see if you could find a crow that’s mentioned in the book, or you could talk about corn or how is corn planted, how does it grow. Whereas your older kids, you could really have them delving deep into Native Americans, what it means to be a Native American, what about the Trail Of Tears and the thing about the Indian schools that were horrible and I didn’t know about and didn’t until like 40 years ago, but these type of things.

You can make it so much of a different extreme just by pulling out pieces and parts of the book. Don’t encourage things like sitting and going, “Okay, we read this, now reading comprehension, what does the author say?” That’s not fun for the kids. That sucks away all the joy of reading. But if we can take what they read and say, “Here’s what it looks like in real life,” or even go to if that you have some site local to you where you can go and talk about that.

We went to Taos, New Mexico two years ago. Up there, my kids were just fascinated because where we live, there aren’t any Native Americans around because basically they were shoved out a few hundred years ago and so they’re all in New Mexico. When I said my great, great grandmother was part of Cherokee, we’ve never met a Cherokee person but we went to New Mexico and met Cherokee people so that was pretty cool.

I’m not saying get in your car and drive hundreds of miles away, but if you are totally near something or you’re going on a trip, you can do that too. All you need to do is just add- -things in that you see in the book, and it could be as elaborate as a field trip, or it could be as simple as, “Oh, let’s go make some fry bread.” Mix some flour and water together and toss it in a skillet.

Amy: Sometimes it might look like a documentary. If we’re reading something that’s in Europe, or Asia, or set in a different time period that we can’t hop on a plane and go check out. Sometimes we can visit Greece or visit China in a way just through watching a documentary, and it’s okay to bring in some of the screen time too, even if you’re reading a book.

Dachelle: Yes, I totally agree with it. Obviously, my business is built on technology and kids have to have some screen time, but that’s the great thing about it is that you need a little of both. You need a little of screen time because these kids are growing up in a world where everything is screens. If we say, “We’re not going to let our kids have any screen time,” well, then you’re really not preparing your kid for life. They also need to go out into the wild and go out in nature. They need to see things out there and they need to see how other people live, just not the people in their community. I think that’s really important too.

Amy: That’s the value of books in general, is they introduce you to people that you might not speak to on a regular basis. It causes you to see with new eyes, to get inside someone else’s head. That’s really valuable to read a wide variety of books too. I know I didn’t ask you this. I didn’t tell you ahead of time, I was going to ask you this, but do you have any favorite read alouds or books that you and your own family and your kids have really enjoyed? You mentioned The Birchbark House.

Dachelle: I’m really bad at this question. In fact, I’m doing a poetry challenge right now. I’m teaching a poetry challenge and they ask what my favorite poem is, and I said, “I can’t tell you my favorite poem because I don’t have one. I have one at different days and times.” As far as different books, there are some that have affected me stronger than others. When my high schoolers, when we were doing Animal Farm, we loved that book, I mean, really got into Animal Farm.

Birchbark House was fun. It’s probably not my favorite one that we’ve done, but it was fun and had a lot of new things that we learned that we weren’t as knowledgeable about. I loved Love That Dog. It was all about poetry and the kids really got into writing poetry on that one and that was fun. Plus the book The Party School was so much fun because we ate dog food and we silly ate it out of dog bowls.

[laughter]

Amy: That’s awesome.

Dachelle: We had fun with that. There’s just so many things that people will say, “Well, what’s your favorite book? I don’t have a favorite book. I really don’t because I grew up and I remember in high school, I was huge into Isaac Asimov and Piers Anthony and all the science fantasy fiction type things, Douglas Adams, all those. Then I moved over into other things that I wanted to historical fiction for a while, and I just don’t have a favorite book. Is that not crazy?”[laughs]

Amy: No, I don’t think it is at all because I do think there’s different times or for different reasons, different books stand out to you. It’s hard to pick just one.

Dachelle: I agree. Now I have books that I’ll say there are books that have influenced my life. I remember reading On the Beach when I was in high school and that book has stayed with me for– I’m not going to tell you how long, [laughs] because I’m so young, for many years. If anybody says, “What book has affected you the most?” I’ll say, “That one,” because I remember it being very life changing to me to think about. Not that it’s this fabulous book everybody needs to go and get. On the Beach is really– it struck a chord with me.

I will say that there are books I hate that I could mention more than I love because there’s just really a handful of books that I hate.

[laughter]

Mary Poppins, I hate it. I’m sorry.

Amy: Mary Poppins is one of the few books that I really enjoy both the book and the movie, but I don’t think of them at all as being related to each other. They’re two totally different things.

Dachelle: The whole time, I was reading– I’d never read Mary Poppins until I started homeschooling. I’d watched the movies. As I was reading and I was running this book club on it, my husband would laugh because I’d be lying in bed reading and going, “I hate this. I hate this. Disney saved this. This is horrible. Disney saved this, too.” [laughs] I hated that book. Yes, I could probably talk more about books I hated than books that are my favorite.

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What Dachelle is reading lately

Amy: That is too funny. While we’re talking about books, it’s actually a perfect segue because one of the questions I’m asking all of my guests this season is just, what are you reading lately right now?

Dachelle: Okay. Well, the latest book I’ve read was Brown Girl Dreaming by Jacqueline Woodson. It is in poetic verse, but it is a biography of– well, autobiography pretty much of her life growing up in the civil rights era and it is really interesting. I really enjoyed it a lot. I’m in the middle of doing, like I said, the poetry challenge so I am literally reading poetry all day, every day right now. [laughs] Not an actual book per se, but little excerpts from books, I guess.

Amy: Yes. Well, I can think of worse things to have to do with your time than spend it reading poetry. I’m a fan.

Dachelle: It’s a hard job, hard job.

Amy: If you enjoy novels in verse, have you read Inside Out & Back Again? I’m never quite sure how to pronounce the author’s name.

Dachelle: I have it. I have not read it. My child read it and she liked it. She goes, “Mom, you got to read this one,” but I’m always reading a book. I have not read that one, but I will put it on my list to read next. I actually own it and it’s in my library.

Amy: I loved that. That was the one that was I thought very powerful to read and talked about– It’s, I guess, middle-grade fiction, but it’s about a young girl who escaped from Vietnam and comes and ends up living in the Southern parts of the United States and her journey and experience. It was beautiful.

Dachelle: I think it’s similar to Brown Girl Dreaming, isn’t it?

Amy: I have the flip of you. My daughters have read Brown Girl Dreaming and I haven’t, but I’ve read Inside Out & Back Again. I guess we’ll just have to swap and read each other’s books.

Dachelle: We will, all right.

Tips to help a Homeschool Day Run Smoothly

Amy: My final question for you is just what would be your tips to homeschool mom, who’s wanting her homeschool day to run smoothly?

Dachelle: Well, that would mean mine would have to run smoothly, right? I think my first tip would be to say it’s not always going to. Some days will and some days will be a disaster. My biggest tip is just when it doesn’t, roll with the punches.

Just don’t try to stick to something every day that you know isn’t working just because somebody else tells you to. Just take your own intuition into account. You are mom, you know your kids. You know your kids better than anybody else on the planet does. You know when they’re struggling with something, and you know when there’s something that they enjoy and they’re going to do well with it, and you know how they learn.

You can watch your kids and know– I have one who absolutely learns everything hands-on and she does not like to sit and read. Now, she will read, but she doesn’t like to sit for hours and read because she would rather get up and learn it by doing something. I have another kid who would sit and read all day long if I let her. She said, “I never have to get up and anything, I’ll just sit here and read every book.” You know how your kids learn the best. I would say just take that knowledge with you and keep in mind that you’re doing what’s best for them for their lives.

Also, when we talked about education, remember it’s not your education, it is someone else’s education. You start them out and you help lead them in and you’re guiding them, but it’s really their education. Anytime my kids start throwing their little fit about, “I don’t want to do this, I don’t want to do that,” I remind them, “Hey, I’m not the one that’s going to be educated at the end of this. I’m not the one who’s going to want to go looking for a job and I don’t have the skills or whatever to do that.”

This is when you need to say, “What do you want to do with the rest of your life and how are you going to get to there? You can start doing that even in elementary school. If you want to live here with mom and dad forever, sure, okay. Guess what? You’re going to be doing a lot more chores mister.”

Give them the opportunity to take ownership because once they take ownership of their education, it makes it a whole lot easier to have a successful homeschool.

Amy: Yes, that is really good encouragement. Often I think we can be tempted to try to view them as these projects or these computers. I’ve mentioned this before on the podcast, but as soon as we try to start mechanizing it and push the right buttons, and then we’re like, “Come on robot, why aren’t you doing what I’ve programmed you to do?” This does not work because they’re individuals and they’re persons. To be able to view them as individuals and to remember it’s not ultimately up to us to get out this perfect result that we have in our head but to appreciate who God’s made them to be.

Dachelle: Exactly.

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Amy: Well, Dachelle, where can people find you all around the internet?

Dachelle: Well, I’m at hidethechocolate.com. I’m at literaryadventuresforkids.com. I am on Facebook and Instagram, both of those, I think– Well, actually Instagram I think is hidethechocolateblog because somebody stole my hidethechocolate before I could get to it. I’m on Twitter and Pinterest there too. You can find us– But don’t follow me on Twitter because I’m never over Twitter. I don’t know. I just don’t do the Twitter-verse.

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Amy: I’ve avoided Twitter so far. I can barely keep up with what I’m already on. I don’t need more noise in my life.

Dachelle: I literally detest social media. I love it for so many things and there’re so many– but it’s a time suck. You go in there, you’re like, “I’m just going to check this one thing,” and two hours later, “Urgh, and I’ve bought a bathing suit. How did that happen?” Basically, I have two groups in Facebook. I have a book club, a family book club by Literary Adventures For Kids, and I have a Relaxed Charlotte Mason homeschool group there. That’s where you’re going to find me the most, is in those groups and talking there.

Amy: Great. I will have all of those linked up in the show notes for this episode over at humilityanddoxology.com. Dachelle, thank you so much for chatting with us today. This has been really fun.

Dachelle: Thank you so much. I had a good time.

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